TMBA 036 (LBP36) – Offices are So Old School

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Hey you guys are good for a lot of things but nobody stepped up to tell me getting an office was one big fat stupid idea! JOKE! Kidding…No, I think as entrepreneurs growing a new kind of business, there aren’t any hard and fast rules so we end up testing out a lot of new ideas to see if they stick. One of this year’s big experiements was starting a brick and mortar office here in the Philippines. I learned a TON from doing this but it wasn’t really creating the explosive growth we thought it had the potential to do. We’ve also decided that scaling into more “lifestyle” focused internships is a much more effective way to grow our business in the short term than radically increasing our overhead and support stuff (um… duh?)

So its not that the office was outright BAD, its just that everyone made big sacrifices to make it happen, and most of them hit home where it hurt most. We were having less FUN and spending more time on stuff like commutes and pushing ourselves to work outside of our natural rhythms.

The key thing here is going to bat. We change our minds about what is working in our business very often, and to me thats a sign that we are pushing in as many ways as possible to look for ways to grow our business and have more fun.

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WHAT DOES IT MEAN!!!!??????? TOO MUCH!!!::::D

Published on 07.21.10
  • HAHAHA what the hell. What does it mean? I'll have to listen to the podcast on my commute home to find out I guess, but thanks for the shoutout Dan! LOVE it man, you guys are freakin' KILLIN' it with this podcast! Thank you!

  • I hadn't seen the double rainbow video until now. My sides are hurting right now.

    I think you guys raise a lot of great points about some of the downsides of working in a physical office. Unfortunately, you are right that people rationalize the reasons for having an office. A place to bring customers, face to face interaction, controlled productivity – all of it borders on pure BS most of the time. I'm sure there are valid reasons, but I've found it's often due to a nearly co-dependent corporate mindset (same mindset that abuses meetings, IMO).

    Jason Fried raised a great point in Rework regarding companies that continue to rely on brick and mortar offices limiting themselves from having the best employees and at best only have the best players within a defined radius of their office building. It IS a crutch. There is nothing that says people are productive because they sat at a desk all day…and there's no way to monitor them and stay productive yourself.

    GAAAHHHH!!!! I can't wait to leave my desk behind. Which reminds me, I know a guy who specializes in Business Intelligence and Entrepreneurial Marketing if you're looking for someone. :D

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  • TropicalMBA

    Its worth noting that “business intelligence” sounds bad ass. You should wear a suit and have a black business card. You know “Schneier on Security” that guy is balla, you could be “Crandall on Intelligence.” Well I feel right in to this trap a few months ago I thought if I could corral everyone up I would have more “control” — I still think there is a lot of room for offices in this world, we'll be keeping our San Diego offices, but for now I'm excited to do a lot more traveling, frankly :)

  • TropicalMBA

    Yeah buddy you are killing it with that new blog design, it almost melted my eyes on my first visit…. its pretty much like the Aston Martin of blogs.

  • Offices are on the way out. Not too long and it won't be the cool thing to do anymore. The thing that bothers me is that people just go to the office and for the sake of going to the office. Coffee gets consumed and nothing really gets done, but damnit you're at the office so it has to count for something, right?

    Great episode guys. And that video just had me dying. Listening to that dude cry had me crying from laughing so hard.

  • TropicalMBA

    Yeah Nate its much easier to be responsible for your location than it is your results, thats the challenge for me and my team in the next few months.

  • I love that what I do sounds bad ass! The black business card is an awesome idea.

    Excited that you'll be traveling more. Going to live vicariously through you for a few more months. If you're ever in Dallas and need a place to crash, holler. :)

  • Please tell me you've seen the Double Rainbow Song –

    I'm a big proponent of working to done, not working just to work…

    Another great one guys. [I'm also a big fan of the tags at the bottom of every post. They're like secret bonuses for the readers who visit the site]

  • Business Intelligence = BA

    I can totally see David as Michael Weston from Burn Notice, going around, spying on businesses and blowing up evidence up with a paperclip and duct tape. Awesome.

  • ha ha, man. I totally forgot what I was going to comment about. You distracted me with that rainbow…

    …anyways, killer podcast once again. Cheers!

  • Deano

    Greetings from [Shhhh]Palawan[/Shhhh] It was great meeting up with you in Manila. I now have a nice base out here and time to work on writing an email and developing my newsletter lists. Sweet :-D

  • Deano

    that should be writing an ebook, not an email (I could do that from anywhere).

  • TropicalMBA

    Very cool Deano, look forward to catching up soon.

  • TropicalMBA

    Rainbow is the best piece of content this week for sure.

  • TropicalMBA

    You have forever enriched this blog by adding the double rainbow song. Thank you for your service sir!

  • Glad to be of service.

  • Great episode guys. I've been enjoying your series and look forward to more from you! I just recently started my own business and it's great to hear a perspective like yours- which is very similar to my approach!

  • TropicalMBA

    Hey Paul thanks for the shout!

  • OMIGOSH! I love Burn Notice…one of the few shows I watch anymore. I'm totally taking on the Michael Weston persona!!! LOL

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