TMBA 370: The Saturday Morning Side Hustle

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Dan and Ian have always been fascinated by how people find, and create, profitable businesses that they also find rewarding.

Today’s guest not only works for one of the most successful startups in San Francisco but, at the same time, has built a successful online ‘side hustle’ in the form of an SEO training course.

Tommy Griffith is the founder of ClickMinded SEO Training. On this week’s episode, you’ll hear how he worked on ideas by setting aside Saturday mornings for reading, podcast listening and thinking. Tommy also shares his thoughts about what you need to give up to be an entrepreneur, and why he thinks there are great opportunities for entrepreneurs in the educational space.


Listen to this week’s show and learn:

  • How Tommy’s income from ClickMinded compares to his salary from AirBNB. (3:20)
  • Why it is more important to pursue an idea that you are passionate about than an idea that is marketable. (6:30)
  • How Tommy got started teaching SEO to people outside of work. (12:21)
  • Why Tommy doesn’t believe graduate schooling is necessary anymore. (23:22)
  • Whether Tommy’s success has led to any problems with his friends. (30:50)

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Published on 01.05.17
  • Evan Humes

    Thanks guys, as a latecomer to TMBA (August ’16), this was my favorite episode yet. I don’t need no graduate school!!

  • Paul Bleisch

    Loved this episode. This felt more like an old-school TMBA episode and felt like it had more heart.

  • cheers! Tommy certainly brings that to the table :)

  • Johnathan Solorzano

    Great episode guys!

  • Damian

    Excellent episode Dan.

    Definitely deserves a place in the top 10. As said elsewhere, it felt like an old school episode with more heart.

    You guys rock.

    Thank you!

  • Clinton Skakun

    Haha! Love how everyone thinks San Fran is where you need to be to build a tech business. When he said San Fran is the worst city for this type of biz. I moved to Mexico to build my business. Saved my ass a number of times.

  • Harry Jarvis

    Tommy it was great to hear your story after meeting you at DCBKK in October.

    Also just want to say thanks to you Dan and Ian for all the amazing shows. As a newbie to the DC and the podcast it really is refreshing to meet so positive and inspiring people. I look forward to many more fantastic episodes.

  • Chris Mitchell

    Pedantry alert – it was William Gibson rather than Paul Graham that said “The future is here, it’s just not evenly distributed yet” – I had to google it to doublecheck and there’s quite an interesting history of the use of the phrase here That aside, great podcast. I wish Tommy had said a bit more about his bartending days in the Sky Park at Marina Bay Sands ;)

  • WORD! Living abroad gives so much time for business building. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve burned a heap of time filling out forms incorrectly (Catalan), learning which shops are best to buy food at, getting a local license, etc. But every time I return to my “home” town, there’s no time in the day! 9-5, then dinner at mums, or my in-laws, or a mate’s place.

    Living overseas, despite having local friends – there’s so much spare time in the day. It sounds selfish, but I can be efficient here – schedule my day out around me, my wife, gym, riding bikes and our business.

    It’s isolating, and I always tell myself “this is temporary”, but it’s productive.

  • @TropicalMBA:disqus I was really energized by this episode. Haven’t met Tommy before and it’s the first time I had heard his story (I know…I need to get to #DCBKK). But I resonated with his story because he helped me put into words the answer to a question I get all the time…”Why are you still working your 8-5?”

    In Oct 2013, I sold my business to a company now known as MyTaskit. As a matter of fact you interviewed me on your podcast about that experience. At that time I would have never thought I would still be working in that business but I am…and I am doing it with passion and enthusiasm. Why? Because I still have something to prove and value to add. As a stakeholder in MyTaskit, I want to see our products succeed in the marketplace. Plus I’ve been at this for over a decade so I have a lot of time and energy invested in it.

    However I have other projects and business ideas. I have been operating under the belief that if you aren’t doing it FULL TIME you are fooling yourself thinking you can launch a successful business. I have a wife and two teenage kids…so there are a lot of things going on in my life. But Tommy made me realize that there are cycles in my week that I can use to focus on a new business or other projects.

    Saturday mornings are ideal for me. My girls like to sleep in and my son goes to rowing practice in the morning. It’s a quiet, focused time for me. Sunday mornings are the same. After a protein/caffeine combo…I am ready to rock in the morning. Plus I can workout, cycle or row in the afternoons on the weekends. I can’t do this during the work week.

    Sorry for the long winded comment but I have been stuck for a while and TMBA 370 was the oil I need to get the gears turning again!

  • cheers Cam glad to hear it as always!

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