TMBA429: The Problem With Cold Email

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Dan and Ian know how important lead generation is to a business.

After all, they used to end every episode of this podcast with the phrase “Go make a cold call.”

Businesses need to make sales to survive. And to make those sales, you need leads.

Today we are going to speak to two people who specialize in generating leads and making sales.

Dan Englander is the founder of SalesSchema, a consulting company that helps larger ad agencies win more business. Dana Lindahl is the CEO and Founder of Legendary LeadGen, a company that helps marketing agencies get in touch with their ideal prospects.

We’ve asked Dan and Dana to join us this week to engage in a spirited debate about the two dominant methods of lead generation.

On one side, there are people who believe that creating an amazing business that relies on word-of-mouth marketing will ultimately bring in more qualified leads. On the other side, is the idea that cold email outreach is ultimately the better way to get new customers and clients.

Regardless of what you think, we hope this episode will inspire you to go out there and take the necessary steps to grow your business.


Listen to this week’s show and learn:

  • The downsides of running a lead generation business. (5:17)
  • Where most people struggle with outbound marketing campaigns. (8:54)
  • Why the best marketers are getting permission first. (19:05)
  • How our own opinions about internet marketing can cloud our judgment when it comes to marketing our businesses. (24:15)
  • Why you can’t “easy button” the marketing side of your business. (34:28)

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