TMBA 041 (LBP41) – Two Four Hour Work Week Fallacies

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Hello from the good old USA, I believe this is our first 100% USA ‘cast in over a year. Yeowwwza! This is a big long episode where we talk about a wide variety of topics. In particular, we talk about why I believe Virtual Staff Finder is currently the best way to get started hiring virtual assistants in the Philippines.

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It’s Friday night, I’m too tired to type more! Hope you all have a great weekend :)

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Episode length: 36:40

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Published on 09.18.10
  • are you guys in San Diego? If so I would like to meet up with you.

  • Oh wow, I didn't realize I was mentioned int eh podcast….I'll be listening in on this tonight. too tired, guys, it's ONLY 7:30 at the moment. :)
    Thanks for the mention!!!

  • Once again, you guys release a podcast just in time for me to listen to on a flight. Score!!

    Also, may I say (without even listening yet) that you guys RULE for mentioning Srini and my e-product. Rock on!

    I also love that I'm starting to recognize more and more of the people in the mentions as people that I communicate with too. I'm taking that as a sign that I'm building the right community! :D

  • After missing out on a HUGE opportunity last night, your kind words have put me in a great mood for the rest of the weekend!

    It's great to see this podcast evolve into something that is becoming a real joy to listen to. Thanks.

  • RAndom

  • Guys…. Random fact of the day… Bintang is actually a subsidiary of Heineken. Hence the same red star and other similarities. Bintang also means “star” in Bahasa Indonesian.


  • Love the british flag idea Ian :) You should get one of the filipino programmers to use the twitter api & make some type of integration :)

    For URL tracking on twitter i love It's the URL shortener from Stumble Upon. David Crandall turned me on to it, and I've seen increased traffic from SU. it also makes it really easier for visitors to thumb up your site, because of the SU frame it puts around your site. Worthwhile checking out.

    Also, is a cool tool for checking your twitter “influence.” David Crandall is practically addicted to it. Cool Twitter tool [since the show seems to be on a twitter kick as of late :)]

  • Thanks for the heads up on the shortener Joel, gonna have to check that out.

  • David can you give me a quick gist of that URL shortener?
    Been taking a lot of your suggestions lately, I thank you so much man. really is helping out a lot.

  • TropicalMBA

    Hey Joel, the one thing that has made me resist is that I really don't enjoy going to links that people send out, for some reason I hate a “managed” web surfing session. In fact, when I arrive at content I think I'll like, I generally manually enter the URL into another tab and begin surfing there. Perhaps that's just a Dan quirk, but my sense is you are right about the benefits of using such a service. I poked around Klout a bit and after 3 minutes didn't really understand it. Hmm…. something about the my attention span, I'm not sure what I'm learning from it!

  • TropicalMBA

    David, that's a sign you are running with the wrong crowd!!! :)

  • TropicalMBA

    Well I'll be damned! That makes all kinds of sense. Bintang is a great brew! Much more exciting that basic old Heineken. Thanks for the tip.

  • TropicalMBA

    Thanks Chris :) Trying to find more ways to make it better. Let us know if you have ideas.

  • TropicalMBA


  • hmmm…you're an odd cookie :) haha.

    klout is interesting. you start to see more after you've updated your info for a few weeks running.

    basically it condenses your tweets into people you interact with, if you're actually influencing others via @replys & rts and in what topic arenas you are doing it…It's makes a little bit more sense than just judging someone's influence by their follower numbers. In fact, some apps like Hootsuite have actually built in integration with it so you can check someone's score right from the app.

  • p.s. crandall could probably tell you more…dude is OBSESSED :)

  • Ian

    Ahh, makes sense now!

  • Ian

    Dan is on the east coast the next few weeks and I'll be in San Diego. I might pop in at the SD Hacker News Meetup next week if you're free:

  • Thanks guys for another awesome episode!

    If you are going to put together an eBook for entrepreneurs thinking about living in Bali (oops, I meant “Indonesia” :)… you might want to sell it! If not, please put up a PayPal Donate button somewhere on the site :)

    Loved the remarks about immigration-related experiences in various countries…

    Also loved the phrase “entrepreneurs are the best customers”…

    You guys rock!

  • Thanks guys, great podcast, it was a great reminder of lessons forgotten from previous biz ventures. Some of the most difficult transitions involve moving from being hard core hands on with a new startup, grinding away to create systems and processes…then going to being able to step back and be open to allow yourself the freedom to enjoy the “play” without the guilt. Getting past the guilt is important because it's the high level playing that really grows your business.

  • Ian, if you could let me know if for sure you will be there? I have a lot on my plate including a 1 month old and a 2 yr old, so my time is currently budgeted out. I will be there if I know for sure you will be too. I'd like to chat with you for a few. Just need a little guidance, not to mention I would just like to meet some of the people who's blogs I follow.

  • I think it is safe to say that you are in the extreme minority here, Dan. I do, however, use the middle button on my mouse to open up links in new tabs when surfing. Oh wait, the apple doesn't have that, does it? Nevermind. has become my largest referrer of traffic and I've seen a fair amount of conversion from it.

    Klout is cool. Like Joel said, it does more than just look at your numbers. It's not uncommon to find people who have scammed the system and gotten tons of followers to have a low Klout score. I've found the scores on it to be fairly accurate at predicting what people are like online.

    But I'm going to stop typing now so that there is no more attention span deficit. ;)

  • Sure. Basically there is a link that you can drag to your browser's bookmark bar that will shorten the URL of whatever site you are on. So…super easy to use. (Big plus for me)

    It also keeps track of whatever you've shortened and stats that go with it. Unlike though, it gets an added boost from StumbleUpon. Where only gets used if someone retweets it or posts it somewhere, the links can be found through the larger StumbleUpon site. I find that I get tons of traffic that way too.

    I recommend it to a lot of people and have yet to have anyone who didn't like it or see better results than (I know, bold claim!)

  • Oh, I know that. Just don't tell them…don't want them to think the same thing!! ;)

  • Listened to your podcast on the flight from New York to Dallas. AWESOME!!! Can't wait for your 44,000 word book. (Also, I think Josh's last name rhymes with dish…makes the whole Son of a Buisch funnier)

    I'd write more…but I'm all over the comments on this post today. ;)

  • Josh Buisch

    Dan and Ian, you guys are rockstars! Love your podcast! Great stuff as always! I'm really looking forward to meeting you guys someday in the future! Thanks for the inspiration and information!
    While I'm piecing everything together with the help of other rockstars like Josh Crocker and David Crandall, you guys are right there providing fantastic content for all the new guys and gals like myself! I'm really grateful!

    and ya, my last name sounds like “bish” son of a bish. say it fast. ya thats right. sonofabuisch :)

  • Couldn't agree more on the 4-Hour Work Week comments. And yet, it is by far the best book out there on the subject of lifestyle design.

    I could swear you guys mentioned this in an earlier podcast… While it doesn't really discuss lifestyle businesses, Rework, by the 37 Signal guys, does a great job of pointing out why most corporate policies are ridiculous and gives some great general advice for creating profitable businesses.
    Highly recommended read for some reassurance and a reminder of all the shit left behind when you take the leap…

    As always, great stuff guys!
    Have you thought about creating a separate resource section on the site as an aggregate of all of the quick tips mentioned since you started doing them? The sum of that bit from all of the podcasts is extremely valuable. Could also be a great source of extra income for the podcast.

  • TropicalMBA

    Also… why is it valuable to understand somebody's influence?

  • TropicalMBA

    I've heard this too and can back it up. Even though stumble traffic isn't the best, its better than nothing. All upside.

  • TropicalMBA

    Hey Troy, thanks for stopping by. David has also suggested I get around to Rework although I can't help but think I've already heard it all from those guys via their blog and all the interviews they do…. have thought of the tips section thats a great idea, we'll do it eventually for sure would be a great source of revenue to cover the basic costs.

  • TropicalMBA

    Ahhh…. got it, even better. Thanks for the review Josh much appreciated!

  • TropicalMBA

    haha thanks! :)

  • TropicalMBA

    Ian and I very much have the “worker mentality” which can be tough to get past. I think we are doing better and better with it :)

  • TropicalMBA

    Great idea David, if we move there ( ;) ) we'll definitely record a paid guide, that is a great idea. (Perhaps we should do one on the Philippines!?) In the meantime, we'll be pulling together more extensive information from ppl. who have kindly offered to guest post at the TropicalMBA so look out for that in the next few weeks.

  • My personal opinion is that influence is one of the most important currencies you can earn…

    [might even have a post coming out about that soon].

  • Ian

    Thanks for stopping in Colin. Guilty work habits are hard. Mainly because as you said they don't allow for you to open up and play. I'd like to hear other people's thoughts (especially peeps with addictive personalities which seem to be a dominate trait in this type of person) about working from guilt. Autopilot guilt work is the worst because it really leaves no room for vision or play.

  • Josh Buisch

    I really appreciate your podcast! Anything I can do for ya!

  • One of the best podcasts yet from Dan and Ian. Lots of useful content Im still trying to digest and implement. Relavent to the last post, Im super excited to see what you guys actually do in business. Dan and Ian are going to step out of their comfort zones and share about their new business venture. Nobody steal it, you might get hurt. Your podcasts are always great, but a lot of us are excited that you are going to join the ranks of the sharing class and SHOW US. Dropping you guys a StubleUpon also. All the best wishes from Travel Personality…let's rock this meet up

  • TropicalMBA

    haha thanks man, I don't think anyone will want to steal it! anyway there are already a lot of people out there doing it as we have found in the last few weeks, so we'll need to put our own personal stamp on our information. basically, we'll just say “balla!” and “yeah buddy” a lot in the ebook. :)

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